Comment on "History, Origins and Prediction of Elastohydrodynamic Friction" by Spikes and Jie

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Authors

  • Scott Bair
  • Philippe Vergne
  • Punit Kumar
  • Gerhard Poll
  • Ivan Krupka
  • Martin Hartl
  • Wassim Habchi
  • Roland Larsson

External Research Organisations

  • Georgia Institute of Technology
  • National Institute of Technology Kurukshetra
  • Lebanese American University
  • Lulea University of Technology
  • Central European Institute of Technology (CEITEC)
  • Université de Lyon
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Original languageEnglish
Article number16
Number of pages8
JournalTribology letters
Volume58
Issue number1
Early online date11 Mar 2015
Publication statusPublished - Apr 2015

Abstract

Progress in the classical field of EHL has for decades been paralyzed by the assumption that shear thinning should be indistinguishable from the shear dependence of the viscosity of a liquid heated by viscous dissipation and that the parameters of this simple shear dependence can be obtained from the shape of a friction curve. In the last few years, by abandoning this assumption and employing real viscosity measured with viscometers, there has been revolutionary progress in predicting film thickness and friction. Now, Spikes and Jie conclude that the previous assumption has as much merit as the use of viscosity measured in viscometers. This suggestion may be popular among those who wish to ignore viscometer measurements in favor of extracting properties from friction curves. However, within the subject article, there are numerous misstatements of fact and misrepresentations by omission, and the recent progress using real viscosity is not acknowledged. The debate has degenerated into a friction curve fitting competition which is not helpful. The great progress of the last few years would not have been possible using the concepts and methods espoused in this article.

Keywords

    EHL friction (traction), Non-Newtonian behavior, Rheology, Thermal effects in EHL, Viscosity-pressure, Viscosity-temperature

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Comment on "History, Origins and Prediction of Elastohydrodynamic Friction" by Spikes and Jie. / Bair, Scott; Vergne, Philippe; Kumar, Punit et al.
In: Tribology letters, Vol. 58, No. 1, 16, 04.2015.

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Bair, S., Vergne, P., Kumar, P., Poll, G., Krupka, I., Hartl, M., Habchi, W., & Larsson, R. (2015). Comment on "History, Origins and Prediction of Elastohydrodynamic Friction" by Spikes and Jie. Tribology letters, 58(1), Article 16. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11249-015-0481-x
Bair S, Vergne P, Kumar P, Poll G, Krupka I, Hartl M et al. Comment on "History, Origins and Prediction of Elastohydrodynamic Friction" by Spikes and Jie. Tribology letters. 2015 Apr;58(1):16. Epub 2015 Mar 11. doi: 10.1007/s11249-015-0481-x
Bair, Scott ; Vergne, Philippe ; Kumar, Punit et al. / Comment on "History, Origins and Prediction of Elastohydrodynamic Friction" by Spikes and Jie. In: Tribology letters. 2015 ; Vol. 58, No. 1.
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